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Post by Umbrafire on Aug 29, 2005 10:17:47 GMT -5
yes, that's what I was trying to say. im not saying that I dont believe in love, or that it's bad in any way, but, I think that we must, scientifically, love instinctively
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Post by invinciblecarrot on Oct 9, 2005 17:42:14 GMT -5
i know the question wasnt directed at me, but I think suicide is one of the worst things a person can do. I had a family member commit suicide about a year and a half ago, and it was one of the worst experiences of my life.
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Post by Umbrafire on Oct 9, 2005 19:00:50 GMT -5
for those of you in health at sibley this semester, we just watched a movie on suicide...saddest movie ever
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Post by invinciblecarrot on Oct 9, 2005 23:33:50 GMT -5
let me assure you that experiencing it and watching a movie about it are very different
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Post by Lobstrosity on Oct 10, 2005 16:38:51 GMT -5
I don't want to sound incredibly mean, but I guess I will. I think being so upset over a suicide is a little selfish.
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Post by Umbrafire on Oct 10, 2005 17:18:23 GMT -5
I know that watching a movie is different, and thats why I said it. Im glad I was born with a natural sort of empathy, I mean I dont know what it's like for you, but I have a very good idea.
I personally disagree, I dont think it would be so selfish to mourn someones death.
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Post by Lobstrosity on Oct 10, 2005 21:24:43 GMT -5
not at all, but the fact is was suicide should not make it any worse.
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Post by invinciblecarrot on Oct 10, 2005 22:44:25 GMT -5
suicide makes it worse because you will never know what caused them to do it, you will never know if you were the reason they did it, and you will never know if you could have helped
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Post by chica on Oct 11, 2005 17:51:08 GMT -5
yeah but even so you don't know even if you had anything to do with it or if you even COULD of stopped it. i'm not agreeing with lobs i'm just saying sometimes people lose control adn then they act out on it. suicide may be going way too far for acting out on it but still. people should find another way to deal with the bad and sad things life throws at them. cry or even be mad jsut don't commit suicide. and it's not selfish jsut because you wanted them to live lobs it's COMPASSION ever have it?
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Post by Lobstrosity on Oct 11, 2005 17:56:24 GMT -5
Hahahahaha, wait what? Yeah. . .
Anyways I understand and all that but just saying if someone wants to die, then they should be able to. It should be up to the people around them to keep it from happening and if they can't then. . .
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Post by chica on Oct 11, 2005 18:04:37 GMT -5
well what about trying all that you can? to stop it I mean? these people usually don't see what they have on earth and I know a lot of kids think about suicide at least once in their lives but....idk
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Post by invinciblecarrot on Oct 11, 2005 21:56:29 GMT -5
the member of my family that I was referring to was my grandfather. he was in a minor car accident, which broke his nose and bruised him up. he was recovering very well and quickly, and as far as anyone could tell, he was very happy. my family and I visited him about a week before he commited suicide. he seemed as happy as ever. his suicide was a complete shock to everyone. nobody knows what/who caused him to do it, and no one knows if they could have been the one to stop him.
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Post by Lobstrosity on Oct 11, 2005 22:34:24 GMT -5
Well if he commited suicide then he obviously wanted to die, and there's no point worrying about the past and who could've stopped him.
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Post by Decieved by the Truth on Oct 12, 2005 3:56:40 GMT -5
[glow=red,2,300] I agree with Lobstrosity on this issue, I think that if your grandpa wanted to die, he has the right to do so. it shouldnt be someone elses decision whether or not one dies or wants to die. [/glow]
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Post by Umbrafire on Oct 12, 2005 15:22:32 GMT -5
i dont think it's a matter of whether or not he wanted to die, but what I think invinciblecarrot is trying to say is that he will never know if it was something he said or did that caused him to commit suicide
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