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Post by KiddoFreak on Jul 21, 2005 19:13:09 GMT -5
I've said it before and I'll say it again... the brain is the "heart". All emotions are run by a part of the brain. If a person wants to do something with no regrets, the "heart" won't say anything because the brain consents. Just wanna say that not everyone enjoys life. Personally, if I was in pain everyday and my chances for survival were minimal to none, I would most likely not enjoy living and I would want to die. No part of my emotions would tell me that I would want to be alive, as the brain does what it can to get the most pleasure out of life. If the most pleasure could be attained by ending life, then I would choose that. Why? Because my brain (aka the heart) would want to.
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Post by GamerMan on Jul 21, 2005 23:56:46 GMT -5
the only role the heart plays in emotions is increasing or decreasing heart rate, and even that the brain tells it to do.
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Post by chica on Jul 22, 2005 13:13:42 GMT -5
well then where does the emotion of loving someone come from, or being hurt by what someone says even if you aren't physically hurt. I agree you can have your brain tell your heart not to be affected lobstrosity but that doesn't mean that deep down you really aren't.
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Post by Lobstrosity on Jul 22, 2005 13:17:31 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure everything is electrical impulses from your brain that tell you to feel a certain way. You can tell your brain more or less what to do.
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Post by chica on Jul 22, 2005 13:20:01 GMT -5
yes I know and the brain can tell the heart but still the heart has control over feelings even before the brain works, even for a millisecond you could be feeling sorrow until your brain tells your heart to not feel that way and yet you still did proving that being affected is involuntary.
what is your view on this topic again?
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Post by Lobstrosity on Jul 22, 2005 13:26:17 GMT -5
no no the brain has control over feelings. The heart is merely a pump that moves blood through your veins delivering oxygen to your muscles so you can move.
My view on this topic? The right to die? Everyone should have the right to die, no laws should be placed against people who want to die. Regardless of if they are on drugs or not, it should be thier decision.
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Post by chica on Jul 22, 2005 13:28:44 GMT -5
so you are saying that the heart is the brain and the brain controls feelings. I guess logically you are correct in saying that but there is also a part of the brain then, that acts as the heart controling feelings and you can't always control that part of the brain.
have you ever tried to stop loving someone? it doesn't work. at least I havn't had any proof of it working yet to my knoweledge. if anyone has had it work please tell me and I will be proved wrong.
(and btw it wasn't lobstrosity whom I was trying not to love)
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Post by GamerMan on Jul 23, 2005 11:14:03 GMT -5
i got it to work, on one person, but I failed on another. Negative renforcement made me lose infatuation with the other one.
Also, what do you plan to do to someone who wants to kill themselves, kill them to stop them. If they really wanted to commit suiside, they would accomplish it no matter what happened (just drive to a bridge and jump, a building and jump, a gun with a trigger, arsenic, et cetera.)
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Post by chica on Jul 31, 2005 16:30:19 GMT -5
yes but almost all teenagers go through that phase and that is exactly what it is, it's a phase but what about the adults who are too wimpy to tough it out? we send them to shrinks and some actually do live. if they live then why should we let them kill themselves when they were suicidal? if they can manage to pull through then they live and yet if they kill themselves before they find out they can tough it out then we have lost a life.
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Post by GamerMan on Aug 2, 2005 0:53:01 GMT -5
if an adult lived, then they wanted to live, killing yourself really isn't a fail success thing, if you want it done, you do it. end of story. As for teens, no they are too stupid to know what they want, so they should be forced to live until they turn 21.
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Post by Umbrafire on Aug 3, 2005 11:40:19 GMT -5
the heart has control over feelings even before the brain works as everyone else has been saying to this point, that is not true. all feelings, whether they be pain, love, or something as simple as seeing, feeling, or smelling, are registered in the brain. Not one part of the heart has any capability to comprehend emotion or feeling.
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Post by Lobstrosity on Aug 5, 2005 2:21:35 GMT -5
We all know that, but metaphorically speaking. . .
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Post by chica on Aug 10, 2005 17:49:23 GMT -5
yeah exactly I know scientifically the heart is a muscle and blah blah blah but the "heart" has feelings that we sometimes cannot escape and most of the time we can't understand and if it was something with the "brain" then wouldn't we be able to understand and not get confused like some of us do with our emotions?
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Post by Umbrafire on Aug 14, 2005 23:48:24 GMT -5
no, because scientifically, love is an instinct
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Post by chica on Aug 28, 2005 20:48:39 GMT -5
an instinct? like birds and migrating? is that because of the instinct to reproduce adn keep our specis going?
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