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Post by GamerMan on Nov 3, 2005 17:23:36 GMT -5
the question arises, what, if anything, makes us unique from the rest of the animal kingdom. is there a singling thing you can point to and say "no other animal has that"
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Post by Lobstrosity on Nov 3, 2005 17:35:49 GMT -5
Humans are by far the smartest, and also no other animal has our exact same skeletal structure.
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Post by Azan on Nov 3, 2005 17:40:25 GMT -5
Yup oh and we have very advanced vocal chords.
We also have aposable thumbs but all primates have those...
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Post by GamerMan on Nov 3, 2005 18:41:38 GMT -5
all primates and the great panda have apposable thumbs, all animals have unique skelital structure, we have no way of testing the intelligence of dolphins, for all we know, they aren't developed because they can't pass down knowlege, or they havn't hit a neccisarry spark that improves them to beyond all the other sea creatures.
as for vocal chords, im not sure how much more or less ours are developed than other animals, but I dont think vocal range is the determaning thing that seperates us from the animals.
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Post by Azan on Nov 3, 2005 23:36:40 GMT -5
Well you didnt say whats better, just what seperates us from animals, and that would be our intelligence as dolphins brains have been examined and they do not pocess the environmnent, or the capacity for sentience only potential.
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Post by GamerMan on Nov 4, 2005 17:59:41 GMT -5
well where and how do you cut the line on intelligence, is it mathamatical intelligence, languich intelligence, hunting intelligence... with thousands of forms to choose from, you can't make a concreate line where you have to be to be seperate from the animals.
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Post by Azan on Nov 4, 2005 18:29:49 GMT -5
The fact that we are sentient and dolphins and all other animals are not is a difference between humans and animals, and humans do poccess grand overall intelligence, an animal may know what is poison and what isnt but that is not inttelligence, its just knowledge from trial and error.
Also humans pocess nuclear weapons does any other animal have those? I think not.
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Post by Ebautafish on Nov 4, 2005 19:48:39 GMT -5
Ye humans are the 2nd smartest animal on the planet, right behind the one and only Ebautafish (which is me)
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Post by GamerMan on Nov 5, 2005 19:58:56 GMT -5
ok... well what about the mentally challenged, are they not truely human... a mentally challenged human often is not as intelligent as a smart chimp, does that mean that the chimp is more human than the mentally challenged human?
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Post by Azan on Nov 6, 2005 14:42:54 GMT -5
Well if one human is not as smart as a monkey does that mean monkeys are smarter than humans? No you cant say that, the average human is smarter than the average chimp.
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Post by GamerMan on Nov 6, 2005 23:12:29 GMT -5
but if intelligence gap is really what makes us unique, then that intelligence would hold for all humans, or at least all humans with limited exceptions, but mentally challenged is not a "ohh well thats just one instance", no that is very much a regular occurance. sure its not of the norm, but its in no way uber rare and shocking, and as thus, if you were to say that our intelligence is gapped from animals further than animals are gapped from animals, then there shouldn't be animals that can beat a fair number of humans out there... thus its not unique enough. true its a fact, but it is not something you can look at alone and say "hey humans are far different from all the other animals.
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Post by Azan on Nov 6, 2005 23:18:50 GMT -5
*sigh
This is pointless, and ive already said what ive needed to say, the average human is smarter than the average of all other animals, and thats a big difference, just because some humans arent as smart as some animals does not mean that humans and animals are not different in intelligence, we are different and thats what this thread is about I believe.
No other animal has the intelligence of the average human. There.
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Post by GamerMan on Nov 6, 2005 23:36:11 GMT -5
well thats like compairing 3 boxes, one being 1 meter, one being 50cm, and one being 25cm... the 1 meter is not unique because its bigger. obviously if it was 1km, than ya its unique from the other 2, but not at 1m. so do you really think humans are that far ahead of all the others to truly split them off from all the other animals, or is there some function done with intelligence that sets us appart...
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Post by Azan on Nov 6, 2005 23:39:00 GMT -5
*sigh if you have 2 boxes, one is 1 meter and the other is 1.1 is that not a difference in size?
Well humans are sentient no other human has yet shown consiousness, ide say thats a pretty big difference.
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Post by Lobstrosity on Nov 6, 2005 23:44:45 GMT -5
well thats like compairing 3 boxes, one being 1 meter, one being 50cm, and one being 25cm... the 1 meter is not unique because its bigger. Uhh, yes, it is unique. |
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