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Post by Lobstrosity on Jul 18, 2005 21:54:00 GMT -5
This is off topic, someone make a corrution/ greed debate elsewhere
If I killed a seal I would make sure it was dead. But other people don't and that's really their business. You could write them a letter asking them to stop, but that's really the limit of your power.
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Post by Kagome on Jul 20, 2005 16:20:58 GMT -5
IT's then ANIMAL ABUSE! Thats the problem not the killing.
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Post by Lobstrosity on Jul 20, 2005 16:24:09 GMT -5
Okay, fine. Whatever. But if they're gonna die anyway, then what's the point of making sure they die quickly? Is it really that important?
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Post by Umbrafire on Jul 20, 2005 18:18:13 GMT -5
plus, it's not like "Seal Clubber's Handbook" tells them to kill them slowly. It's an accident, or a choice made by an INDIVIDUAL. you cant just make it stop
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Post by Lobstrosity on Jul 20, 2005 18:41:03 GMT -5
To be fair, you could make a law against it and fire people who are known to do it.
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Post by Umbrafire on Jul 20, 2005 20:35:54 GMT -5
true, but that will only help by so much, and that's way too much paperwork over a couple of seals
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Post by chica on Jul 21, 2005 17:22:33 GMT -5
ok for one thing what was up with all the currency talk I do not understand how that relates to animal slaughter adn second of all I agree with danielle that we aren't against the whole killing of the seals because azan is right they would over populate but what we are against is the WAY they are killed.
it matters because no animal should die like that. it would be easier to get it overwith by shooting it to cause less pain. no animal should have a painful death.
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Post by Umbrafire on Jul 21, 2005 20:55:25 GMT -5
no animal should have a painful death. one could also say that a parent should never have to bury their child. however, we cant prevent people from dying before their parents (rather, it's not feasible). what I am saying is that the certain seal clubbers that either choose, or make the mistake, to skin a seal alive cannot be stopped as easily as you may think. also, it's likely that most of them are accidents, because if the guy knew that the seal was alive, why wouldnt he just kill it?
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Post by chica on Jul 22, 2005 13:22:48 GMT -5
i love that saying and that is from lord of the rings when the king has to bury his own son I love that! anyway...i know what you mean but someone dying you can't really stop if it is too far but hurting a seal in that way CAN be stopped and I know that some people may have accidents but they don't wanna shoot it because it will ruin their pelt adn I just think that no animal should be killed to be a decoration.
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Post by Songstress on Jul 28, 2005 21:35:29 GMT -5
there really needs to be a law banning the way that these people kill seals. I mean what if someone came up and banged you on the head, and the skinned you alive! I mean that nust be excrutiating.
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Post by Lobstrosity on Jul 28, 2005 21:38:03 GMT -5
I'm not a seal. I'm smarter than a seal. Smart enough so that I can avoid being skinned.
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Post by chica on Jul 31, 2005 16:08:08 GMT -5
so that doesn't mean that it is right to do it just because you might be able to get out of it.
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Post by Lobstrosity on Jul 31, 2005 18:48:09 GMT -5
Yeah it doesn't really mean it's wrong either.
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Post by chica on Jul 31, 2005 19:10:48 GMT -5
and again with the right adn wrong. do you think that hurting a living thing is wrong or right?
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Post by Lobstrosity on Jul 31, 2005 21:59:07 GMT -5
Well, that's difficult to answer. Yes I think hurting living things is right. I think it's right because most things hurt other living things. Maybe even all things. Animals kill and eat each other. Even herbivores eat plants, which are living things.
But keep in mind that when a human kills another human it is considered wrong. This is only because we as humans all agreed on a society that worked together with rules that made life as good as possible for everyone. It's called government, and we are still perfecting it (even now by debating). But the point is that our government has such rules to make life better because we are smart enough to do that. We are the ONLY animals on the planet capable of this.
Consider a world without the government. It would be just like the rest of nature. Someone kills your family and loots your cave or whatever you live in. There's nothing wrong with that. . . Right? There's no government to tell you what's wrong or right.
And when an animal kills a human, it's the same thing. Even though the animal can't comprehend the government, it is interfering with the government so the same rules apply.
So you see, killing a living thing is right. Only we have a government to say it's wrong so everyone can be happier and not get stabbed to death.
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