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Post by Lobstrosity on Jul 11, 2005 21:47:49 GMT -5
What's popular is what's liberal nowadays. Just felt like pointing that out. Furthermore they did a fine job of showing how bad war is, they did not in any way make war look cool. Almost everyone dies, including the main character who had a wife he wanted to see again which was the reason he was on that mission. This is clearly making war look bad.
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Post by Azan on Jul 14, 2005 10:42:30 GMT -5
Whats popular is whatever people want to watch and republicans and democrats are almost eavenly split, but I do believe that alot of out tv shows are mostly liberal (maybe this could explane why liberals are in states with alot of tvs and republicans tend to be in locations that might not have tv, makes ye think )
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Post by Lobstrosity on Jul 14, 2005 10:46:08 GMT -5
I think even Republicans would rather watch TV with a liberal bias, even though they may not agree with it, it does make for good TV.
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Post by Azan on Jul 14, 2005 10:50:16 GMT -5
True, but it can still alter their opinions on things without them realizing it.
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Post by GamerMan on Jul 17, 2005 2:34:31 GMT -5
Whats popular is whatever people want to watch and republicans and democrats are almost eavenly split, but I do believe that alot of out tv shows are mostly liberal (maybe this could explane why liberals are in states with alot of tvs and republicans tend to be in locations that might not have tv, makes ye think ) there are no less number of TV's per capita in republican states than democrat states. the entire thing is ETHNIC DIVERSITY. Large cities have many DIFFERENT PEOPLES. For them there is no norm, and they are used to seeing everything more. Everything is progressive and forwards moving in addition. Republican states are small white christian communities, where traditional values dominate. there also lacks those of ethnic diversity who are mostly liberal. That is why these states are liberal and the others are conservative. Its a fact that almost evreyone accepts, and all statistics support. Also, liberals are most likely to read than conservatives, they are also more likely to partake in community service and other time consuming activities. Conservatives, are more likely to, guess what, WATCH TV. Thats right, conservatives. The often lesser educated (by averages[almost all college graduates voted for kerry, bush got almost all of his votes from those without a college degree] group with an extreamly high sports watching rate, thats right, the group that is HEAVY TV WATCHERS. How about we look at the most popular movies, shrek, madigascar, passion of the christ, the incredibles, and batman begins, all of which focus on family values, and "decensy" ideas rather than social freedoms (which is liberal in nature). how about one of the biggest TV shoes, the simpsons, which fits into the same area. Finally, to say that liberal is popular, first off it has no real base, most movies with real liberal biases did horribly in theaters, and the nation is split between liberals and conservatives, and what is popular would then be moderate. Again, you are either thinking the area of moderate is more conservative than it accually is (in otherwords, you think the balance point is closer to your views than it accully is ), or you are only focusing on one side of the arguement (also arrogant).
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Post by Lobstrosity on Jul 17, 2005 17:47:44 GMT -5
You are the one who is arrogant. You rattle off as many facts as you can that probably aren't even true and are mostly irrelevant anyway just to sound sophisticated and smart. You make me sick. At least cite your info, Gamerman.
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Post by GamerMan on Jul 17, 2005 21:15:01 GMT -5
the listing of what movies were popular and what movies had right wing values were by Rush Limbau (or however you spell his name). as for the fact that movie audiences would go for a balance, thats all based on ecnomic/political theory. I got the political theory from Robert Schenk (a right wing monetarists), and I got the economic theory from Adam Smith's The Wealth of Nations. I look up the majority of my info prior to posting it and avoid using sites biased towards the arguement im making, instead looking for 3rd party statistics, or statistics used by the view im argueing against origianlly intended as a measure against the view im taking.
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Post by Lobstrosity on Jul 18, 2005 10:07:31 GMT -5
Very well, but I will say again that these stats, like any others, can be based on countless other variables as well. I could start naming some, but it would most likely be a waste of time.
I would like to point out that none of those movies you listed (none of the ones I've seen anyway) are conservatively biased. If you think they are, you should probably explain it in more depth.
Oh, and being liberal is popular now because of Bush being a somewhat unlikable president. Some people (I know several) will base their own views against his without even really understanding why or what views they are.
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Post by GamerMan on Jul 18, 2005 13:24:34 GMT -5
the idea of family values is a conservative view,eg. (incredibles, madigascar), Passion of the Christ shouldn't really doesn't need to be explained why its conservative, as for batman begins and shrek, im not too sure about them, I was just taking the word of a conservative that said they were conservative films, I guess those 2 are argueable.
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Post by Lobstrosity on Dec 1, 2005 22:38:02 GMT -5
Cursed media. . . I hate it, but I concede to it. We have a right to free speech.
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Post by Azan on Dec 2, 2005 23:02:08 GMT -5
Yes the media is bitter sweet, Americans hate it when it makes fun of them and makes respectable people look like idiots. And then when it gets taken away we riot.
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Post by Lobstrosity on Feb 24, 2006 0:17:36 GMT -5
Well, I suppose the media is merely a reflection of the popular culture of today's society. And lucky us (sarcastically), today's pop-culture society is a very liberal crowd.
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Post by ivantheterrific on Aug 9, 2006 22:09:59 GMT -5
The media is liberal, but that doesn't mean the end of concervatives. In fact, thanks to the media, ironically enough, people are finding out that the media is liberal. Already people are wary about movies. Already people speak up about all the liberal bias put into everything. We live in an age where these liberal secrets can't be kept up. And thanks to that, we have a strong counter movement. We also have a quickly growing conservative movement, and the strongest conservative lean in the americas since pre-FDR.
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Post by Azan on Aug 10, 2006 21:34:32 GMT -5
Liberal media isnt a bad thing, if people dont like it they can go watch conservative media... if there isnt any then make some up.
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Post by GamerMan on Aug 13, 2006 0:56:31 GMT -5
But the media ISN'T biased. In fact the biggest trends have been extream nationalism and consumerism and a strong emphasis on capitalism with all these "win a million dollars" shows.
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