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Post by Azan on Aug 9, 2005 0:09:45 GMT -5
And im guessing by this time you will be in alaska where you can write about conservative views, then when some liberal finds your stories in the future they will learn of a time that wasnt ruled by the liberals and he then starts his own conservative country in your honor?
Read my own post, im crazy and tired so nvrmind (unless that is what you have in mind)
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Post by Lobstrosity on Aug 9, 2005 0:34:53 GMT -5
Well I won't be writing to much about political views.
Ah well, this is getting too off topic, so back on track, I am fairly sure owtlawing abortion would prevent more abortions which is all that really matters. People would illegally perform abortions and we arrest them, we warn women not to try it themselves because of the health risk, and we save a few potential lives by doing this. People might not agree, but it should be the unborn baby's decision.
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Post by GamerMan on Aug 9, 2005 0:36:16 GMT -5
if you leave sexual intercourse alone, it will often turn into a baby, does that make condum use bad/should be made illegal.
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Post by Lobstrosity on Aug 9, 2005 0:45:39 GMT -5
No, that would be too extreme.
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Post by Azan on Aug 9, 2005 10:49:36 GMT -5
No, that would be too extreme. And see thats exactly the point half the people would say that what you are proposing is too extreme.
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Post by Lobstrosity on Aug 9, 2005 12:07:02 GMT -5
No, they wouldn't say it's too extreme (it's the least extreme thing we can do about it) they would just not like the idea at all and attempt to stop it, but it's the right thing to do no matter how many liberals disagree with me.
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Post by Azan on Aug 9, 2005 12:23:22 GMT -5
The least extreme thing we can do about it is tax it and make programs on the prevention of it like I said before, and in the long run it could be just as effective if not more than outlawing it.
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Post by Lobstrosity on Aug 9, 2005 22:15:56 GMT -5
I don't think so, more potential babies would be killed that way and you have to agree, so that would be not extreme enough.
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Post by Azan on Aug 9, 2005 22:22:39 GMT -5
Well if you wanted to irradicate it in the best possible way you would combine our views, but they would still get done, and many people, more than half the country would be unhappy.
Im all for the removal of abortion, just not immediatly you are going to need most americans on your side (which most currently are not), so you make programs and tax it, thus making it expensive, and the programs will discourgae people from getting abortions, then when this generation feels they dont need abortion you just outlaw it.
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Post by chica on Aug 10, 2005 17:29:23 GMT -5
GAH! too much government stuff. I agree that the women should have the choice and yet I also agree they shouldn't because not all of them know what they are doing. I mean my advice would be not have sex at all but as you boys have pointed out that would be extremely hard. also about the women giving themselves abortions I have heard of it too. they throw themselves down starirs or off of something to just try and kill the baby and not themselves. idk but my advice is abstinance until you are ready but that is never gonna work with humans being the way they are
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Post by Lobstrosity on Aug 16, 2005 15:11:03 GMT -5
Okay I just got a response from Betty McCollum about the email I sent her for school. I think I may have posted the email here. . .
Anyway, she said some stuff about appreciating my opinion, but she is firmly in favor of abortion. She mentioned Roe vs. Wade and the supreme court's decision (as if it can't be changed) and she said she was sticking with that.
She did however, mention that she will continue supporting ways to avoid the need for abortion, like adoption etc. so that's cool.
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Post by Azan on Aug 16, 2005 15:22:36 GMT -5
Exaclty, we need to try to find alternatives to abortion and make abortions harder to get, but abortion shouldnt be outlawed completely, more government awareness programs, give more money to parents who adopt etc. etc.
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Post by Lobstrosity on Aug 23, 2005 11:58:22 GMT -5
But outlawing it would help even more.
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Post by Azan on Aug 23, 2005 12:22:10 GMT -5
Well I personaly think thats crossing the line a bit, because your telling people whats moral when more than half the people disagree on your views of morality in abortion. You are against it because its something that will be life, well many people disagree with your views on what is moral and what is not, so you have to draw the line somewhere.
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Post by chica on Aug 28, 2005 20:42:34 GMT -5
i love adoption and that is way cool but some girls just don't wanna give their kid up adn sometimes they won't have a mom or dad to go to, to take care of the baby, they are giving up their future for this baby which is cool but when you have so much of a future to go, that's just not right so if you do have the baby make the decision for adoption to help the BABY AND THE MOM.
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