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Post by bad-monkey on Apr 19, 2005 12:50:48 GMT -5
it's an awful thing to do, kill an unborn baby, but I think that a woman should be able to do with her body wut she wants. for many, especially teens, it can be very emotionally depressing. and anyways, maybe the lady doesn't want to be cut open or go through excrutiating pain. think about it.
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Post by Lobstrosity on Apr 19, 2005 14:52:38 GMT -5
She should have thought about it. BEFORE SHE GOT PREGNANT! Think about it. This in conjuction with the death penalty is my main reason for being anti-liberal conservative. Why is it that liberals want to abolish death penalty, and support abortion?
THINK ABOUT THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You sapare the lives of those who have committed murder, and at the same time destroy pontential lives of children yet to be. They have a chance, they have a chance to be something. Murderers had their chance, they used their chance to kill.
THINK ABOUT THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Azan on Apr 19, 2005 15:09:26 GMT -5
Yes I happen to somewhat agree with you, unless the woman was raped she should be able to have an abortion, if not its her fault no excuses and being Catholic I was always tought to exersise abstinance and to not give in to primal urges like a animal, im not saying its wrong or anything im just saying if a woman gets pregnant she has to deal with the consequences, I mean seriously this is life so its time to realize that many desisions you make (espesialy teens because they dont comprehend consequence as well as adults) will lead to negative consequences, you cant just wish something to go away.
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Post by Lobstrosity on Apr 19, 2005 15:13:58 GMT -5
Well why did you vote yes? When I voted no, I meant it should be limited severly, but yeah if a woman gets raped she should be able to get an abortion, but that's really the only case I think is valid
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Post by chica on Apr 19, 2005 15:14:38 GMT -5
okay I am so for abortion becuase like yeah what if the girl was raped? like I am a girl and I know that if I was raped it wasn't my fault and I should be able to get out of having a baby. also I don't think teens should be allowed to even have kids. yes it was their choice to do it with a guy and get pregnant but if they are that bad at taking care of themselves they will probably mess up the baby's life too. yes it is an unborn child and like if my birth mom were able to have an abortion she might have and I might not have been born so I am also looking at the side where there should not be abortions. but my main thing to why we should have them is if a teen girl gets pregnant obiviously she is not very good about taking care of herself, how would she ever be able to take care of another life? I mean she would end messed up and probably not be able to go to college and the kid would end up messed up also. so I am for abortion all the way i love you monkey and i'm glad you brought this up.
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Post by Azan on Apr 19, 2005 15:15:49 GMT -5
Well why did you vote yes? When I voted no, If you ment me, then your wrong, I didnt vote yet
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Post by Lobstrosity on Apr 19, 2005 15:17:57 GMT -5
Good point, but I still disagree. Even if she probably couldn't take care of a child, she took the effort to create a life, she should at least make an effort to care for it.
So far we all agree that if a woman is raped, she gets the choice to have an abortion.
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Post by Azan on Apr 19, 2005 15:19:06 GMT -5
also I don't think teens should be allowed to even have kids. Well I can see where that would stop the problem at its source so we wouldnt need to worry about abortions but I think that would be far to hard to regulate. but I am also against it because I always get this thought, what if we accidentaly aborted a child that would find a cure for cancer or some great thing like that... then again theres the other thing where we dont abort a baby that becomes Hitler 2
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Post by Lobstrosity on Apr 19, 2005 15:23:17 GMT -5
Exactly my point. We shouldn't take away the child's potential without knowledge of what that potential may bring. But y'all seem to want to keep the murderers around, even though they've had thier chance.
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Post by chica on Apr 19, 2005 15:34:04 GMT -5
But y'all seem to want to keep the murderers around, even though they've had thier chance. <------ you have a point lobstosity but I mean yes it could be the next guy or girl peace leader but then again it could be a raging criminal when it grows up because it had a 16 year old mom who ignored it and didn't care for it the right way.
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Post by Lobstrosity on Apr 19, 2005 15:38:40 GMT -5
Then comes the death penalty, it's the perfect system.
You see? We wait for the kid to grow up, and if he turns bad, BAM!! Death Penalty! If he turns good, Aren't you glad we didn't abort him?
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Post by Azan on Apr 19, 2005 15:39:48 GMT -5
Then comes the death penalty, it's the perfect system. lol I gotta say it all kinda fits together.
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Post by bad-monkey on Apr 19, 2005 16:25:47 GMT -5
well it's not like girls try to go and make babies ALL the time. wut if they were practicing safe sex and the condom broke or something. it's partly there fault but if one bad thing happens then they are screwed for life? this can allow them to have a chance to come back from there mistake. and also, everyone can say "wut if". wut if they were the next einstein, wut if they were a peace leader. but if we can say "wut if "on this, why can't we say wut if on the death penalty(subject change). maybe the person who commited the crime wanted to change his life so he studied and all that jazz and then maybe he will be the next peace leader(ironic) or the best brain surgeon in the world.then maybe we shouldn't execute them(if the murdered, then they probably would have life without parole, but i'm trying to make a point.) we can think about "wut if", but we can't use that as a reason to eliminate abortion. (wut if the baby became the worlds most deadliest man).
yea. take a bite of that pickle and spit it out and then put it back in your mouth because you decided you like pickles.
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Post by Azan on Apr 19, 2005 16:34:01 GMT -5
Well your statement doesnt affect me because im also against the DP, but maybe I can make an argument in that even though I am against the DP, most of those people are beyond repair (once again not my view its just an argument that could be made against it)
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Post by Lobstrosity on Apr 19, 2005 16:50:33 GMT -5
I told you, if the kid grows up to be bad, then death for him. Its not only about the parents, but you seem to think it is. It's mostly about the potential child in my opinion
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