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Post by Sad Baby Green on Jul 1, 2005 0:54:11 GMT -5
Okay I still am saying the same thing...I say that gay marriage and for Vash who put out the idea of someone to marry their dog or any animal wouldnt you think that that would lead to animal melastartion (sp?) and would never be considered marriage or even beome exceptible? I mean that is my view and if they were to change it they would be able to have a very clerified definition...I also am lead to believe that on the matter of Gay Marriage they have considered having it where the Revern decides weather to accept and perform marriage to a "Gay" or "Homo-sexual" couple. This is something I agree should be included in the law if they decide to make "Gay" Marriage legal. That way someone wont be offended when they have to marry two men or/and women. That would go under freedom of choice and freedom of speech. Freedom of choice should also include love who you would like you have that choice and I think that you should have a choice to marry even if it is to the member of the same sex. I have also realized lately I am once again a what would be called Pending Bi-sexually. Meaning that I am not sure if I would be in a realationship with a girl. I seem to be better off with Guys. Even though girls understand me more often. I am more comfy with Guys. Just to inform my friends. But yeah sorry about kinda Skipping around.
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Post by freak02kick on Jul 2, 2005 17:31:56 GMT -5
Anyways, do you mean happy marriage? Cause gay also means happy.
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Post by KiddoFreak on Jul 2, 2005 23:07:54 GMT -5
This is a little off-topic, but it does deal with homo-sexuality. I've noticed that someone who doesnt like homosexuality is instantly branded as homophobic and ignorant. It seems a little strange to say that gay relationships are "right" and everyone who disagrees in wrong. Sure, there are some people who are completely ignorant and have no justified reasons to hate homosexuals, but what about those who calmly and peacefully lay down reasons for their opinions? We have to remember that openmindedness goes both ways. We need to be tolerant of not only people that are in a minority, but also of people in the majority. I'm fine with homosexuality, I'm fine with people who don't like it. I actually have friends (and a father) who are completely against it, and I don't hate them for it. I think I'm trying to say that this isnt black and white. People who are against gay marriage aren't evil just because they have an opinion, and homosexuals arent always good just because they have a different one. I'm fine with the argument about it, in fact I kind of like the fact that it makes people think deeply. What I'm not fine with is people, on both sides, who are sure that the other side is "wrong" without a doubt. Each side has justification, each side has speculation. Don't think that yours (whichever side that is) is completely right all of the time.
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Post by chica on Jul 2, 2005 23:15:25 GMT -5
really good message but a lot of people even adults don't get that. for example, gay people have their own channel on tv now with gay shows and movies. I am so cool with that cause they are gonna show "the birdcage" and "philadelphia" on it but anyway what some people are saying is that since it is on tv that our kids will be exposed to it and it will make them think it is ok when it really is "wrong". like christians and other people believe that it is wrong to love the same sex and to admit I am one to think of what's right and wrong. I am not very openminded to other people's opinions...i mean I think it is totally right! and them believing it is wrong is wrong. there was this magnet thing I saw that says "We live here, we love here" with the rainbow flag for the 'e' in "we" it was cool and it just says love is love
oh and btw Spain (my hated enemy because of the conquestadors conquering Peru) have now made gay marriage legal and it is also legal in Canada
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Post by Sad Baby Green on Jul 2, 2005 23:39:24 GMT -5
Ok: Freak02Kick no I wasnt talking about happy marriage I was talking about homo-sexual marriage. This is what this fourm is for.
Kiddo Freak and Chica you both are right. And it is really cool that people can watch what they want but also that parents try not to "expose" their children to homo-sexuallity.
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Post by chica on Jul 2, 2005 23:42:20 GMT -5
yeah and anyway it's on those channels that can be blocked by the parenting controls so they don't have to watch if they don't wanna.
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Post by Sad Baby Green on Jul 3, 2005 21:19:26 GMT -5
But, also I forgot to say. Who know why parents try to "protect" their children from homo-sexuallity. I mean it is bigger than ever now and they know that their kids will have to face it. I didnt mean it like that is a bad thing either. But why do you think that parents do that. It just annoys me.
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Post by Lobstrosity on Jul 5, 2005 19:29:30 GMT -5
You see? Sooner or later everyone agrees with Lobstrosity. Everyone it seems, except for Chica and Shannon. I'm going to side with Kiddofreak here and say I'm not really sure if it is "right" in fact I'm pretty sure it's not, but it's not completely wrong either and people should have their own opinions about it. btw not that it matters because Kagome will probably never read this, but It was my idea that no married couples anywhere should get any benefits (besides non-profit ones like child custody etc.) and I don't think Vash ever agreed with that... did he? If so, then yay! Score one for the conservatives! oh, and also in fact its a theory that (if you don't believe in soul mates) that there are thirteen perfect matches around the world and you're lucky if you meet maybe 2 or 3. Um... how about UNLUCKY? That would totally suck to meet two or three different perfect matches because how the hell would you choose between them? Just sayin'...
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Post by chica on Jul 6, 2005 21:36:14 GMT -5
*clears throat* thanx lobstrosity that felt really good anyway...why would it be wrong? they are in love and love is definately not wrong no matter what. and why shouldn't they get the benefits? they are a couple who are married and love eachother and they have a family and children and they need some of those benefits. it's like prejudice just because they are dfferent. they love and need all that a "regular" family needs and a "regular" family loves the same so why not just give them the rights they deserve?
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Post by Lobstrosity on Jul 7, 2005 8:57:23 GMT -5
I want no benefits for anyone, regardless of whether they are straight or gay.
It's not really what I would call right, because love is not meant to work that way. I don't really care, I'm just stating that as a fact.
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Post by Hellberg on Jul 7, 2005 9:20:04 GMT -5
Gays are just that "GaY". I find the very idea of gays sickining. They disgust me most thoroughly. I am a christian and it says right there in the Bible that it is wrong. No one has to agree with me but that is how I feel about it.
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Post by Lobstrosity on Jul 7, 2005 9:34:18 GMT -5
That's fine, it's good to finally get a different opinion on this topic.
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Post by chica on Jul 22, 2005 13:37:54 GMT -5
yes even if it is very insulting to anyone that might be gay on this site. so what about the bible who cares? the bible also says thou shalt not kill and thou shalt respect thy parents! do we do any of that? ?? NO WAY! and it also says LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR it never says what sex thy neighbour has to be!
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Post by Umbrafire on Jul 26, 2005 18:40:53 GMT -5
it's all a matter of interpretation, and in this case, there is no right or wrong, just opinion.
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Post by Azan on Jul 26, 2005 18:44:01 GMT -5
Fistly ide like to point out that it doesnt say anywhere in the bible that gays are bad or being gay is bad.
Secondly I stand by my view, marriage is just a word, it has no meaning whatso ever, you can have love without marriage and marriage without love, so I say let them have marriage and if not that then the same benefits but call it something else.
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