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Post by Umbrafire on May 18, 2005 16:27:20 GMT -5
sorry about my incorrect numbers, it was just an expression.
now, let's all get back on topic!
yay for on topic!
EDIT: what I meant by "9/10" was just "the majority"
Im sorry for all of the confusion and that azan thinks im crazy.
EDIT EDIT:
*yum*?
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Post by Vash on Jun 8, 2005 21:10:07 GMT -5
Ok, not sure why or how I started thinking about this but I did...
Ok, everyone says that love is love and it shouldn't matter who you marry as long as your in love, but what if its a dog? Or some inaminent object? What if its just something crazy like that, does everyone still agree?
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Post by chica on Jun 9, 2005 12:41:23 GMT -5
no because that is a different kind of love. what at least I am trying to say is that the love between a man and a woman is the same kind of love between a woman and a woman or a man and a man. there is loving your dog but then there is loving your b/f, g/f, or partner. just like there is one for loving family.
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Post by Vash on Jun 9, 2005 12:54:59 GMT -5
But, what if they believed they loved an animal or whatever the exact same way a man and a woman or man and a man or woman and a woman loved each other?
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Post by chica on Jun 9, 2005 12:57:48 GMT -5
ummm...well then we would have a problem because if we said that gay marriage is ok because it is the same kind of love then I guess people who loved their animals like that would want rights too but I have never heard of that kind of thing happening so idk.
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Post by Vash on Jun 9, 2005 13:04:39 GMT -5
Yeah, I seriously doubt it would happen, but if it did, that could mean that we probably can't base it completely off of love, or make it so people can't marry anything besides other people.
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Post by chica on Jun 9, 2005 13:07:38 GMT -5
yeah but still why shouldn't they get the rights to marry the one they love? to be with their love for as long as they both shall live? what's wrong with a guy and a guy? (people if you are for gay marriage or even if you are not you should see THE BIRDCAGE with nathan lane and robin williams it's a great movie about being who you are even if it is gay and a travsvestite)
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Post by Lobstrosity on Jun 9, 2005 14:36:05 GMT -5
I think what Paul's saying is that if we allow gay marriage (which I think we all agree is fine so far) it's only a matter of time until someone complains that they love a dog or something and want to marry it. But Paul's right and we could just make the final law be only people marry people.
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Post by chica on Jun 17, 2005 0:41:40 GMT -5
yeah but even now people are like "it's wrong to just make it man and woman" so it will probably get to "it's unfair to just have it human and human" idk though I have never met someone who loved their pet "like that"
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Post by Lobstrosity on Jun 21, 2005 10:17:57 GMT -5
Yeah, but chances are they're out there. And if we make gay marriage legal, chances are they will show themselves and demand the right to marry their dog...
lol, i'm still for gay marriage though, but that's one reason why some people are against it. Really that's the only reason that makes sense to me.
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Post by Kagome on Jun 26, 2005 17:40:24 GMT -5
ok I TOTALLY agree with both Lobstrosity and Vash. There should be no benefits except for mor legal issues (like child custody, etc. . .) . And Vash is right. Why wouldn't you wanna marry a human anyways? Yeah go ahead and love a dog but if it was even possible what could the children look like. And I don't think that any person could say that they couldn't find one person in the whole world to love and marry in fact its a theory that (if you don't believe in soul mates) that there are thirteen perfect matches around the world and you're lucky if you meet maybe 2 or 3. But saying men and men and That woman and woman is wrong is based off of religion if not could they give us a good reason as to why not? I doubt it. If its based off of religion then its unconstitutional. .(just out of curiousity has any other country in the world ever made it legal in their country?)
BTW jiub I AM NOT A SKINNY WHITE BOY!
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Post by KiddoFreak on Jun 26, 2005 20:47:11 GMT -5
Okay, just to clarify, I don't really know my position on the subject. I just have picked up a few arguments against gay marriage. If I remember correctly, marriage was started by the church to create more christians. The governments started giving benefits to married couples to encourage people to get married so that we would have a larger population and thus have a bigger working force. That is why so many people frown upon same-sex marriage. It almost ruins the purpose of marriage: childbirth. Then again, in today's society, we have enough teenage mothers to make up for same-sex couples. I guess the whole concept of homosexual marriage just kind of confused me. I mean, what is the big deal with marriage any ways? As Azan has said, there can be love without marriage and marriage without love. For the moment, I need to start agreeing with lobstrosity here, with the overwhelming overpopulation that is happening, and is bound to keep happening, the whole benefits system is becoming obsolete.
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Post by Azan on Jun 26, 2005 21:14:35 GMT -5
If I remember correctly, marriage was started by the church to create more christians. Well your close, for CHristians it was created by Catholisism to prevent a man being married to more than one woman (this was one of the first things that started men and women are created equal, that and it was believed that there would be too much population (and you could have more control this way)), and to catholics it is one of the 7 sacraments (the sacraments are goals or stages that you can go through, there is baptism, confirmation, marriage to a person, marriage to god(priest/brother/sisterhood) death etc. etc. some of these is what all must go through (like death) But then some men(mostly) said they should be able to get rid of their wifes (King Henry the 8th wanted to switch wives because they didnt bear him a son, the church said this wasnt right that you cant go from woman to woman just because they dont give u a son) so King Henry sorta inveted divorce and thats where modern marriage is today (somewhat) wow that was a bit too detailed... But once again this is only for christians But yeah, marriage is just a word for legal purposes, it means nothing. |
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Post by freak02kick on Jun 27, 2005 10:54:19 GMT -5
I don't really like Gay marriage. I think it's sorta weird.
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Post by Songstress on Jun 27, 2005 22:17:54 GMT -5
freak, gay marriage is no different than heterosexual marriage. The same things apply, the two people love each other and I can see nothing wrong with that.
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