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Post by bad-monkey on Apr 18, 2005 13:09:56 GMT -5
that wasn't innapropriate at all, he was expressing his opinion.....
so anyway.... people say that marriage is between a man and a woman and it has been forever but it seems to me like those people are afraid of change. the only thing that allowing gay marriage is doing changing the definition of marriage. what's so wrong with that. and anyways, since when is marriage about tradition(man and a woman)? it's not the 12th century, you don't have to get married to specific people. and for people who oppose gay marriage.. wuts it to you? is it harming you in any way, shape, or form? lemme answer that..NO! the worst that can happen from allowing gay couples to marry is that there will be a happier community. OH NO! IT'S A GOOD THING! maybe these stupid conservatives(not saying anyone specific, because not all conservatives are against gay marriage, but just in general) should just accept the fact that the U.S. needs change and maybe we can start here with allowing people who are in love to get married whether it is a man and a man or a women and a women. lets make America a nice place for everyone!
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Post by Umbrafire on Apr 18, 2005 15:36:54 GMT -5
liberals, moderates, and conservatives are all stupid at an equivalent level
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Post by chica on Apr 18, 2005 15:44:17 GMT -5
monkey I love you and your views I totally agree. love is love no matter what. it doesn't matter who you're in love with it's just love. I mean I hate it when people bring the bible into it you know? like saying it says in the bible only a man and a woman? but it also says love your neighbor and if your neighbor is the same sex as you so be it.
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Post by Azan on Apr 18, 2005 15:59:03 GMT -5
What I have to say is that the definition of marriage is corrupt, marriage is just when two people get legaly put together, you can have marriage without love and you can have love without marriage, which justifies my point, marriage shouldnt matter at all, and even if you look at it biblicaly its still basicaly the same thing, two people can love each other they just wont have all of the legal rights/opportunities as non married people (If you read the bible it does say several times (allthough interpreted) that its for legal tems and whatnot and this has been the corner stone of arranged marriages etc.) (and if your Catholic then you have the sacraments which one of them being Holy Matromony which many people consider or think that it is marriage, but it is different)
So basically my point is is that if marriage is just a legal agreement giving you rights(which it is), who are we to say certain groups of people shouldnt get the same rights, I mean I thought we learned from groups like the KKK to give everyone equal rights etc., in fact this is no better or worse that the discrimination of African Americans, and it just annoyes me when humans cant learn from the past.
well theres my pointless ramblings of me trying to convince no one, as no one so far has been really against it.
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Post by MeGApOPE WITH A GuN on Apr 18, 2005 18:44:30 GMT -5
I think marriage should be between only a man and a woman anyone who says otherwise is uhhh .... hmmmm A COMUNIST!!!
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Post by GamerMan on Apr 18, 2005 19:08:20 GMT -5
ok then, please explain your reasoning... if you are going to state an opinion, you should be able to explain your reasoning...
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Post by MeGApOPE WITH A GuN on Apr 18, 2005 19:15:08 GMT -5
my reasoning is that George Bush is against it for some reason and I worship him, also it just goes against the great dictionary of Webster
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Post by bad-monkey on Apr 18, 2005 19:57:12 GMT -5
so basically you are saying that you are not willing to change 1 definition so that people can have equal rights. I think you're the communist here, making it so the government controls love too....
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Post by GamerMan on Apr 18, 2005 21:46:08 GMT -5
he just said he supports bush, thats not communist, if you wanted to refer to him as a ratical, facist would be the choice. And support for party is a rational argument, so feel free to continue to debate. (btw, Oxford Dictionaries dont define it as between a man and a woman)
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Post by bad-monkey on Apr 19, 2005 12:41:12 GMT -5
i didn't say anything about bush at all I said that he is a communist because indirectly he is saying that the government should control who gets married and who doesn't.
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Post by chica on Apr 19, 2005 15:17:46 GMT -5
DOWN WITH COMMUNISM!!!!!! sorry just had to put that and it does not say that in the dictionary OR the bible. so on you
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Post by Azan on Apr 19, 2005 15:21:57 GMT -5
it does not say that in the dictionary OR the bible. so on you so true, normaly ide go to my whole "definition of marrage speech" but I already posted it here.
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Post by Azan on Apr 19, 2005 15:28:42 GMT -5
hmm yeah ide say this debate is officialy dead, we all agree
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Post by Umbrafire on Apr 19, 2005 17:07:58 GMT -5
hmm, what do we do with dead debates?
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Post by Azan on Apr 19, 2005 17:12:53 GMT -5
hmm, what do we do with dead debates? let em sit, they may be revived in the future
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