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Post by Lobstrosity on May 20, 2005 15:39:50 GMT -5
I know, but you can't really argue against genetic engineering without bringing up God vs. evolution, so we are deciding whether or not to bring back the Creationism Vs. Evolution thread, but whatever we'll just talk about it here.
From what I understand, neither bad-monkey nor phantom-vash believe in evolution, and that God just created animals and humans all at once. I belive in the bible, but I think maybe God created creatures and gave them the ability to evolve. There is a lot of evidence to support evolution. I don't really know of any off-hand, but I do have a moderate understanding of how evolution is supposed to work.
Every once in a while, an animals DNA is mutated slightly. Sometimes this mutation gives the animal an advantage over it's rivals. If the mutated animal has the advantage, it is more likely to live to reproduce and pass on it's mutant DNA. And every time this happens the animal becomes a little different. It evolves.
This is just what I know, and you don't have to belive it. I do because it just makes sense.
So I am in favor of genetic engineering because esentially it is taking the evolution process and speeding it up, only we can speed it towards whatever we want.
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Post by chica on May 20, 2005 16:52:34 GMT -5
well I think it's a bad idea to do it to animals if it is not for their benefit or if it just messes them up but for food like vegetables it's great cause it can solve world hunger or something like that.
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Post by Lobstrosity on May 20, 2005 16:58:00 GMT -5
Think of all we could do if we did it to animals though. We could have rescue dogs that can withstand cold temperatures trained to rescue people after an avalanche. How about that? That would be pretty cool.
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Post by chica on May 20, 2005 17:00:17 GMT -5
well... I guess but still why would we want to do that? I mean I think the dogs are fine the way they are and anyway it would be for our benefit to change them not theirs I think if we could, it should be the dogs decision but then there's the whole communication barrier thing.
but then again we could help them talk maybe and communicate with us better? hmmm....
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Post by Lobstrosity on May 20, 2005 17:23:21 GMT -5
What dog wouldn't want to be able to help people and resist low temperatures? It's not like we'd be hurting the dog's either.
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Post by chica on May 20, 2005 17:25:04 GMT -5
well how would you know? maybe it would have side effects or something
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Post by Lobstrosity on May 20, 2005 17:48:02 GMT -5
Genetic alteration, if done properly, shouldn't have any side effects. It's not like we're giving the dog a pill to make it different, we are changing the way the dog itself functions by changing the way it's cells act.
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Post by Vash on May 25, 2005 10:50:17 GMT -5
Genetic alteration, if done properly, shouldn't have any side effects. It's not like we're giving the dog a pill to make it different, we are changing the way the dog itself functions by changing the way it's cells act. If done correctly, but if something goes wrong then said dog can mutate and either A. Suffer and die, or B. Take over the world with super mutant dog powers.
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Post by Lobstrosity on May 25, 2005 15:27:01 GMT -5
only the best scientists will be doing stuff like this then.
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Post by Vash on May 25, 2005 17:39:29 GMT -5
only the best scientists will be doing stuff like this then. You'd expect people who are trained in using the equipment they use during the death penalty to be professinals, but things go wrong there. So its possible for things to go wrong here too...Then again its possible for things to go wrong with everything...
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Post by Lobstrosity on May 25, 2005 18:16:02 GMT -5
Actually, doctors don't perform executions, only certified executioners or prison staff do that. Because of this, they sometimes screw it up. If we had doctors do it, we would have less botched executions, which makes DP more humane. I just wanted to say that, even though it's really more of a DP statement.
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Post by Vash on May 25, 2005 18:29:00 GMT -5
Well, then, as long as they don't mess up, I don't think there'd be anything wrong...
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Post by chica on May 25, 2005 21:01:03 GMT -5
killing someone is humane??? ok then. anyway I agree with only the plants but yet again I know if humans were to try anything with animals then they would probably mess it up and make the dog or cat's life more miserable.
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Post by Lobstrosity on Jun 21, 2005 10:22:54 GMT -5
naw, how hard could it be? I'm sure they can do simple things that even a liberal like you can appreciate, like making the animal live longer using genetic engineering. Basically you name it, they could probably do it with GE.
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Post by chica on Jul 2, 2005 23:41:20 GMT -5
you really think they could make it live longer??? hmmm....but still I mean there will be some side effects like any experiment we do and I don't wanna risk that.
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