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Nov 26, 2005 2:19:31 GMT -5
Post by KiddoFreak on Nov 26, 2005 2:19:31 GMT -5
Wow, it's gotten to 92%? A few years ago it was only like 50%. Hm... well, I've since come to a few conclusions on "Love". I guess I'm sortof at a balance between what you guys are saying. I believe that love makes us happy, yes... like a drug. We have extreme highs and even more extreme crashes after it's gone. No, I think that love is actually the opposite of happiness. Love is more of an obligation that we have to follow than something we enjoy. I'll use myself in this example: I'm deeply in love with someone at the moment, and the only times I'm ever very happy is when I am around said someone. It's the being away from it that kills. The only reason that I'm so happy when she's around is because "love" depresses me when she leaves. So you see, love is sortof this never-ending cycle that is bound to kill us all eventually. At least it's fun in the meantime.
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Nov 26, 2005 18:22:37 GMT -5
Post by GamerMan on Nov 26, 2005 18:22:37 GMT -5
that should be a 62%, stupid numberpad typo
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Nov 29, 2005 16:32:59 GMT -5
Post by Azan on Nov 29, 2005 16:32:59 GMT -5
Remember the good old times in Mongolia when love was considered a sickness... wait those werent good old times, alot of people died anyways...
Love is all chemical, just about everything that makes us us is chemicals.
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Dec 22, 2005 1:58:05 GMT -5
Post by xXMidori-ToraXx on Dec 22, 2005 1:58:05 GMT -5
love shouldnt be a debate, I hate debates. I dont know why I am in this topic. ttfn
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Dec 22, 2005 18:04:42 GMT -5
Post by chica on Dec 22, 2005 18:04:42 GMT -5
why shouldn't it be a debate? a lot of people have a lot of different views on love! and if you wanna ask why it's in debate I suggest you ask whoever came up with this thread in the first place
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Jan 4, 2006 17:02:32 GMT -5
Post by Lobstrosity on Jan 4, 2006 17:02:32 GMT -5
I changed my mind, true love can hurt in certain situations. And believe me it hurts the most.
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Jan 7, 2006 23:58:06 GMT -5
Post by xXMidori-ToraXx on Jan 7, 2006 23:58:06 GMT -5
why shouldn't it be a debate? a lot of people have a lot of different views on love! and if you wanna ask why it's in debate I suggest you ask whoever came up with this thread in the first place because I hate debates and why do you need to discuss love? its silly. you can't truly discuss love. you can only feel it. and even the greatest writers and artists and inventors can never truly capture it in words, so if you cant capture it in words, then you shouldnt have a debate about it.
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love
Jan 12, 2006 17:28:37 GMT -5
Post by GamerMan on Jan 12, 2006 17:28:37 GMT -5
well then dont post on the debate board if you dont like to debate (current events counting as a seperate board). there are alot of different views, so dont say that those who have a different view, and choose to say it, are "silly". no matter how light hearted, thats still trolling, and will not be tolerated...
now the writer part is a legitimate part.... thus if you want to continue to make your case why you're opinion is correct amoungst this style, you're welcome to, just avoid any direct assaults on the opinions of others.
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love
Jan 13, 2006 16:10:45 GMT -5
Post by xXMidori-ToraXx on Jan 13, 2006 16:10:45 GMT -5
Remember the good old times in Mongolia when love was considered a sickness... wait those werent good old times, alot of people died anyways... Love is all chemical, just about everything that makes us us is chemicals. yes and chemicals can also burn a whole through you so by saying love is a chemical doesnt change anything. if everythings a chemical then what do we have to debate about besides chemicals? chemicals in our brains can cause us to go crazy or hear voices or think that cutting is the solution to pain. if those chemicals matter enough to be discussed then 'love chemicals' surely are too.
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Feb 24, 2006 0:13:30 GMT -5
Post by Lobstrosity on Feb 24, 2006 0:13:30 GMT -5
Fine, but none of us are fully qualified bio-chemists, and our knowledge on the subject of those chemicals that trigger a feeling of love is marginal.
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love
May 3, 2006 23:40:38 GMT -5
Post by KiddoFreak on May 3, 2006 23:40:38 GMT -5
Do any of you remember a time when we didn't know that water was a bunch of teeny microscopic things called molecules? Before we knew anything was just a bunch of matter? Before we knew that stars were just deadly flaming balls of gas that eventually explode? Before we learned that life was all about reproducing so that our kids could reproduce? How amazing these things felt before we were forced to disect them and pull them apart and learn? I have to admit that Miss Tora makes a good argument, "love" is chemical, and chemcials are powerful things. "Love" is quite honestly like a drug, in all seriousness, it is. It sets off the pleasure receptors in the brain and we literally become addicted to it. Eventually the feeling of pleasure goes away and we need more and more. And those of us that can't get a stronger feeling get depressed. And if it goes away we get depressed. And once we can't get any more, we get depressed. Now, despite what you might be thinking, this isn't a negative post. In all honesty, if recreational drugs didn't cause shrinking testicles and a plethora of cancers and possible paranoia and all that fun, you can bet I'd be doing them. They're entertaining while you're doing them, same with love. There's really no feeling like it. I'd have to say that in my personal experience the high you get from love is pretty amazing and relatively long-lasting. Is it really such a horrible thing to want to feel it? Is it really unnatural at all to feel bad about it? I don't think so. I'm pretty dman sure that every teenager in a developed country (not just America, mind you) and even in some undeveloped ones undergo "love" troubles. It's not uncommon. What is common is our urge to be unique, to the point that we fool ourselves into thinking we're the only one with problems, or that our problems, at least in this matter, are worse than any one elses. Some of us deal with this by harrassing others who start to try to express their own pain, others among us attempt to make other's feel better to make themselves feel better, some people try to tell themselves that no one else feels this horribly so no one has any right to tell them what to do. It's all normal, perfectly normal. Everyone loves, everyone normal does. It's normal, it happens, it gets us a high, it drops us like a spider that it just found on it's hand, we want it to do it again. It's a hell of a feeling, thus it's understandably one of the harder ones to deal with. However, this does not make it a bad thing. Not in any way. Chemicals are powerful things, emotions are just those chemicals, but that doesnt make the fact that they hurt and heal and send into erratic fits of horrible, horrible *gasp* happiness sometimes. Sure it's just a chemical, sure it can suck, but why does that make it such a bad thing? After all, Love is never going to (directly) make me lose a testical, and isn't that all we really want from a drug?
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May 6, 2006 14:48:16 GMT -5
Post by Lobstrosity on May 6, 2006 14:48:16 GMT -5
some drugs are addictive. You use them and you become dependant on them. I don't want to depend on anything
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May 6, 2006 16:19:00 GMT -5
Post by xXMidori-ToraXx on May 6, 2006 16:19:00 GMT -5
Too late, you're dependant on oxygen.
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May 6, 2006 18:10:54 GMT -5
Post by Lobstrosity on May 6, 2006 18:10:54 GMT -5
oxygen's free and there's plenty of it. I mean anything else.
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EvilTrigun
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May 15, 2006 0:50:22 GMT -5
Post by EvilTrigun on May 15, 2006 0:50:22 GMT -5
Ah, love.... There's so many things to say on the topic and (as usual) not nearly enough time for me to say it.
Scientifically, it's all about smell. Quite literally. Scentless smells too, and I'm not kidding. Each person has their own "smell", only we can't actually smell it. Our brain is able to notice it though, and without our knowledge guides us to be attracted to certain others based on this hidden smell. I'd go into more detail if I could, but I'd probably be wrong, as 20/20 reports only get so detailed (yes yes, I occassionally watch that show).
But love is so much more than that.... or is it?
I could go on and on about how love is so much more, so spiritual and emotional and real. I could detail my relationship with my girlfriend, how we have big plans to last waaaay past college (she being only a high school sophomore). Hell, I could lecture about people who think they are in love, but aren't.
In reality, I (sometimes) feel love is an exercise in faith.
To explain, let's look at religion. Is there any scientific proof that, for example, Jesus was the son of God and not a mere mortal (hello, Da Vinci Code)? The simple answer is no. Religion is the desperation of humanity to believe that life is more than what they can see it as, that there's an ultimate purpose for everything, that death isn't the end. In a world of harsh realities, religion gave, and still gives, people hope, and hope is a powerful thing to have. Religion is having the faith to believe in something that is impossible to prove. Now, I consider myself religious, but like any normal human, I find myself questioning. Are we as a people so desperately scared of death that we created a heaven (and hell) to ease our minds? I guess we'll find out when we die. On that note, if anyone here happens to die before me, and heaven does exist truly, send me a sign. Not some crappy sign, like an apple hitting me on the head, those signs suck. Give me a really obvious sign, like a neat little note proclaiming heaven's existence on a sticky pad... or something.
Now, let's apply all that to love. Just like with religion, science cannot prove that there's a deeper spiritual love. It can only point out hormones and scentless smells. So, love also becomes an act of faith. We are desperate to believe that we can make connections with others that are more than simply lust or family ties (ie: relatives). We want to believe in something greater going on, something far more noble than passing on genes. But we'll never truly know, because love can't be classified. Each of us has our own views of love and what it should be. Who is right? Who is wrong? Who the hell cares?
For myself, I'm a firm believer in love. I just get in the questoning mood sometimes, ya know how it is.
Anyways, I'm a firm believer in love because of my girlfriend (go figure, right?). How do I know I'm in love? Well, I think I have a pretty good idea. Bear with my emotional ramblings.....starting now: We both care about each other so much, helping each other through problems and cheer up. Quite literally, I could be having a day from hell, then I see her and talk to her for a while and BAM, my day rocks. Simply her entering the room elevates my mood. I am often amazed at the mutual compassion we have for each other. I feel that I am a better person whenever I am with her. Her outgoing nature rubs off on my shy person whenever we're together. In her presence, I am able to go into places such as Camille's, Victoria's Secret, Rave, and not mind at all. Heck, we talk baby talk to each other, BABY TALK! In front of others no less, and I don't feel embarassed in the least. I know she cares deeply for me, and she knows I care deeply for her, and it's amazing. And we both think each other is incredibly attractive (although, I'll never know what she sees in me). Had to mention that part last or else you guys would think it's just physical.
Well, that's not much of an ending, but it'll have to do. It's 1:42 AM and my insomnia is wearing off it seems. I wish I could honestly say I'll be swinging by this site more often but I can't, sorry. There's never enough time for everything I want and need to do. Oh, if anyone cares, I didn't get into a single Ivy League hahaha. Applying to 17 colleges diminishes the effort put into each one it seems. I am going to be at the University of Rochester come September, which happens to be about 10 minutes from RIT, where a couple buddies of mine will be (that didn't influence my decision in the least). More on that later, whenever I can get back to this site.
Sorry to piggyback so much into my post, but since I may not be back again for a while... I am truly sorry I just stopped coming to the site without saying much of a goodbye. I know I let down the RP's, and I regret just dropping off the radar. I enjoyed the RP's and the debates and generally everything, and I miss it. Anyways, I hope to see some of you on YIM again sometime. I really enjoyed the enlightened conversation or two we had, Kiddofreak.
Gah I'm rambling, goodnight/morning, and in the words of a friend, FLAME ON!
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