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Post by chica on Jul 21, 2005 17:34:45 GMT -5
NO KILLING! well I guess I see your guys point about over population but I agree with azan. WE are the problem not them!!!!!!!! we are the ones who have taken away their habitat and way of life to profit our own. I know that they do get over populated even the predatory ones and I know that we should keep those numbers down but what about the others we just like to hang on our walls? if I did that with a human I would be put in prison. and the reason they attack us is probably because they are mad at us for taking away their home and running in on their turf! but I do agree with keeping the animal population down just not so far that we have more and more extinct animals.
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Post by Lobstrosity on Jul 21, 2005 17:39:00 GMT -5
Okay, but you know the analogy where you kill a human doesn't work because an animal is not a human. Animals aren't as smart as humans. Nowhere close.
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Post by chica on Jul 21, 2005 17:43:19 GMT -5
so what! who cares whether you kill something that is dumber than another. it doesn't matter you are still killing a life just to have it as a decoration. for food I can agree with killing it but if we suddenly run out of cows I will disagree with hamburgers to save the cows
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Post by Lobstrosity on Jul 21, 2005 17:51:36 GMT -5
What's so great about cows that they deserve the respect of humans?
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Post by chica on Jul 21, 2005 18:01:20 GMT -5
lol. no silly, what I am saying is, that if we get too carried away and drive them to the endangered list , then we should give them some respect by letting their species live and help us as humans get our nourishment. but all animals deserve our respect because we are using them and why treat an animal like that just because we can.
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Post by Lobstrosity on Jul 21, 2005 18:04:39 GMT -5
Well I see your point, but we don't treat an animal like that only because we can, it's because we can and we have something else to gain, like money or knowledge or other stuff.
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Post by chica on Jul 21, 2005 18:08:42 GMT -5
yes true but how is it knoweledge when you are killing an animal just for a decoration on a wall?
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Post by Lobstrosity on Jul 21, 2005 18:14:45 GMT -5
I said money, knowledge, and other things. A decoration is another thing.
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Post by chica on Jul 21, 2005 18:21:21 GMT -5
yes but killing for money can be bad and good, knoweledge I guess is ok just as long as you don't overkill, and other things can cover a whole lot of ground which can be very bad
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Post by Lobstrosity on Jul 21, 2005 18:33:26 GMT -5
All of which is based on opinion.
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Post by chica on Jul 22, 2005 13:30:41 GMT -5
yes but then where do morals of wrong and right come in? who is it right to kill and who isn't it right to kill?
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Post by Lobstrosity on Jul 22, 2005 13:34:32 GMT -5
That is all based on individual morals, which are of course different for everyone. There isn't a standard of what is right or wrong really. But then how do you run any kind of government at all? I guess there should be some kind of morals, but how do we decide what's right and wrong? As a society containing people that believe so many different things, how is it possible to set up a system of morals that works for everyone?
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Post by chica on Jul 22, 2005 13:39:48 GMT -5
that is true, what is right to one person may be wrong for another. and that is a good question, how DOES or government work if the people and the people who run the government have all different beliefs.?
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Post by GamerMan on Jul 23, 2005 11:17:43 GMT -5
its a mixture of social services that can't be supplied privately, a generalized protection, and then acts based around what normally is general beliefs protecting things like human property and life. However often do morals, esspecially religious ones, step in to create a law that is not usuaversally seen as a negative moral (prohibition, the no selling cars on sundays, et cetera.)
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Post by chica on Jul 31, 2005 16:28:12 GMT -5
yeah but would it be the same if we were mostly a different religion like muslim or hindu or something? would our government make laws according to that religion? I am assuming so but gamerman you seem to have more knoweledge on this kind of stuff
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