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Post by GamerMan on Jun 12, 2005 0:55:14 GMT -5
just set up a set of laws and an enforcement means for watching to make sure that people on welfare get help in ending gambling addiction, and ban them from using the casino. (obviously if you wanted to spend your monthly entertainment budget on gamboling intead of whatever else, nothing is wrong with that).
The real ideas of Gambling ban is the fact that legalising it would increase crime greatly, and also has negative psychological side effects in the form of being habit forming (much as marijiuana does)
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Post by chica on Jun 17, 2005 0:32:44 GMT -5
what do you mean by increase crime? do you mean robbers and such?
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Post by GamerMan on Jun 17, 2005 1:28:18 GMT -5
gambleing tends to boost such crimes as, Prostitution, drug usage, theft (of all kind) ect ect ect... ya lots of problems it brings in, so in teh end, legalizing gambling might cause people to pay more taxes or be less safe (or it could lower taxes if it brings in enough tourist)
[internet cafe allows me to log on today]
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Post by chica on Jun 17, 2005 11:01:35 GMT -5
oh I get what you mean, but those are just side effects I mean yes it might cause those things but if they wanna go ahead and do that stuff then let them. it's their problem they are ruining their lives.it's not hurting anyone else
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Post by Vash on Jun 18, 2005 22:10:10 GMT -5
...not hurting anyone else untill they ruin they're lives to the point they go psychopathic...
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Post by chica on Jun 19, 2005 15:22:20 GMT -5
yeah that's true but still I mean they could get help for that and it's not like every psychopath is gonna go out and kill a bunch of people anyway.
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Post by Vash on Jun 19, 2005 22:28:59 GMT -5
well thats pretty much the definition of psychopath...so yeah every psychopath will kill...and by that point you can help them, but thats not easy...plus I doubt anyone would be comfertable trying to help someone who kills people for fun...or maybe for no reason at all...
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Post by chica on Jul 2, 2005 23:52:47 GMT -5
yeah that's when you jusr need a lot of help. and how does this relate to gambling?? lol
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Post by Sad Baby Green on Jul 3, 2005 21:06:00 GMT -5
Okay from what I have read most of you say, "I dont care" But would you when your paying for welfare. And one of you, not sure who, But you said that we should have welfare recipents be watched and banned from gambling then but if you do that your just making the tax payers pay for people to watch and do that. Thats I think if its legalized you should be able to present the money, and it should be checked so that it is made sure their able to pay it, that way we might have people that go broke but they wont be in debt. Which would solve one problem and gambling should only be legal at certain points. No. like 24/7. I think that is why people get addicted is they are able to do it/
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Post by Lobstrosity on Jul 5, 2005 19:48:38 GMT -5
Okay, I haven't said anything for a while here, so I will just say I vote for fully legalized gambling (I see no reason for a rise in crime) and lower welfare for all. Regardless.
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Post by chica on Jul 6, 2005 21:24:36 GMT -5
i still don't get the whole welfare thing so if one of you could fill me in on how they are connected I would be very grateful.
i am with lobstrosity because it's their money and they should do what they want with it, if they lose it all hopefully they will learn a lesson adn if they make it rich they won't have to worry about it anymore.
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Post by Lobstrosity on Jul 7, 2005 9:13:25 GMT -5
Cool. Okay basically with gambling, poor people would lose all their money gambling. The government gives them welfare money which they then lose gambling. Basically it's like they would be gambling with the government's money. I want to remove the welfare money from this equation.
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Post by chica on Jul 22, 2005 13:42:45 GMT -5
yes but how would you remove the welfare from only the poor who are gambling? because it is unfair to remove it from the others who aren't abusing it like that.
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Post by Lobstrosity on Jul 22, 2005 13:45:02 GMT -5
Well, I know you're gonna disagree with me on this, but I don't like the idea of anyone in general getting free money from the government without a good reason and without earning it. So I think we remove welfare from everyone.
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Post by chica on Jul 22, 2005 13:51:34 GMT -5
you are right I do disagree with you and yet I see your point. it's like giving everyone an A in a class even though they havn't worked and earned it. hmmm...i'll have to think about that one but I am always for helping people and yet I would think it extremely unfair if everyone got an A just cuz they could.
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