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Post by Niccolo on Nov 3, 2005 23:11:29 GMT -5
How do you play?
Me personally- I LOVE naval combat, and if at all possible ships are my primary meand of accomplishing nearly any military goal. However, I can't rely on ships all the time, and on land, I keep my enimies busy with large numbers calvalry archers (or dragoons in AOE3), specifiically targeting military production buildings, mills, plantations, and docks, as well as any troops that pose a threat. If pulled sucessfuly, this can keep an opponent in a constant state of repair all game. I'll usually make a final push with large numbers of heavy infantry, supported by naval forces if the fort is a port.
It's even more fun to keep small groups of troops harrasing the enemy perimiter while scores of troops in ships move in to land at their port for the kill.
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Post by Azan on Nov 3, 2005 23:34:26 GMT -5
Turtler here. I like ranged combat, and naval combat but I have long since found that naval combat is near useless unless you or an enemy is on an island. (its good at beating ultra noobs though)
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Post by GamerMan on Nov 4, 2005 17:57:25 GMT -5
ummm, naval combat helps in the 4th age, even on carolina and New England(amazon and carribian are givens that it help)... but to say that you try to take the seas, and accually taking them, are compleatly different if your opponent is compident, and both are trying to take the seas... or even if one is just trying to protect his coastline.
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Post by Azan on Nov 4, 2005 18:33:28 GMT -5
Well on online battles I have found it to be useless on New England and Carolina you know why? because ONLY COMPUTERS BUILD NEAR THE WATER, humans almost never do and ive found that no one online uses naval warfare much so its almost pointless ruling the seas, of course it does allow you to transfer an army to locations easily but there are ways of getting around that.
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Post by GamerMan on Nov 5, 2005 20:06:58 GMT -5
fishing boom is far FAR faster than a normal boom, your food supply is not effected by aging up, you have the capacity to triple it in the 2nd age. Really, neglecting the seas is a recipy for failure, as even a really good rush attack can not slow your economy to slower than your enemies if you dominate the water.
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Post by Azan on Nov 5, 2005 20:39:21 GMT -5
Notice I never said people didnt fish, I merely said they didnt try to dominate the ocean. Sure people will occasionaly build ships to destroy enemy fishing ships but they are far to costly and building a simple watch tower near your fishing boats has so far prooved more than enough to keep enemy ships away.
But im sure people will focus more on naval warfare as the game progresses with online people.
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Post by GamerMan on Nov 5, 2005 22:06:27 GMT -5
ummm, they are focusing on it right now, ive played mattie, matei, and shiva (#1 player/#1DM player, and one of the top 10)... they all agree, if the enemy is allowed to dominate the seas, than you are going to be in for a TOUGH match
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Post by Azan on Nov 5, 2005 22:12:30 GMT -5
So I see, I havent played AOE3 in a while because it got boring waay too quickly (and yes of course if you dominate the seas on an island level, but if its on a level like England it is not going to help you as much, building a navy is costly and early in the game you can get screwed... unless you are a boomer).
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Post by GamerMan on Nov 24, 2005 22:05:05 GMT -5
ok the unofficial but preatty close rankings just came in, civs from those doing best to those doing worst (due to balancing issues [larger], and preference of the experts [minor, most experts play a mix, and often play those considered week])
French/Ottomans/Germany/Spain/Russia/Dutch/England/Portugal
thigns to note: French and ottomans still remain dominating, spain has slowly climbed its way up, Russia has fallen 2 places, the dutch rose 2 places, and portugal suffers from much contrivery around its weak HC Tech Tree, an its UU's, that many have declaired worse than the unit they were replacing. we have one expert (91% win percentage) who is playing with portugal as his main city, but is having to do so rellying on bonus TC as his only advantage
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Post by GamerMan on Nov 25, 2005 12:53:34 GMT -5
French 21.20%
British 19.49%
Ottoman 16.77%
German 13.00%
Spanish 10.98%
Russian 10.37%
Dutch 8.24%
Portuguese 7.22%
thats the player percentages, though some of it is just natural allure (england) or natural dislike (russian), alot of it it due to unbalance (luckely, when the french get tuned down for balance, alot of poeple will have wasted alot of time leveling up a Home City that they wont like any more)
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