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Post by Azan on May 11, 2005 16:22:51 GMT -5
of course
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Post by Vash on May 11, 2005 17:36:18 GMT -5
Yeah, that actually usually is the reason why they are endangered...
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Post by Azan on May 11, 2005 19:01:27 GMT -5
Well not usualy, ide say human growth(growth of farmland) endagers more animals like in the rainforest
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Post by Lobstrosity on May 11, 2005 19:03:49 GMT -5
If we continue to protect all these weak little animals, they will never evolve to help themselves. They will probably evolve instead to be dependant on human charity.
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Post by Azan on May 11, 2005 19:08:14 GMT -5
Yeah but humans kill more species than we save I mean isnt it like 60,000 spiecies go icsitnct each year.
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Post by Vash on May 11, 2005 19:11:10 GMT -5
Pwn'd...
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Post by Lobstrosity on May 11, 2005 19:12:31 GMT -5
Because, they haven't learned to defend themselves from humans! Once they master that, they won't go extinct. Also those numbers are all falsified. Any environmentalist will tell you that it's that high, but they never have evidence or even names of species to back it up.
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Post by Vash on May 11, 2005 19:14:58 GMT -5
lol, so true. I'm sure the numbers are somewhat high but those are probably exagerated.
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Post by Azan on May 11, 2005 19:17:05 GMT -5
Because, they haven't learned to defend themselves from humans! Once they master that, they won't go extinct. Also those numbers are all falsified. Any environmentalist will tell you that it's that high, but they never have evidence or even names of species to back it up. Ahem its not hippies taking this, in the rainforest there are several million spiecies of insects alone (in the rain forest), this many new spiecies come in and many die out naturaly, but many are also due to human presence, and that just wouldnt work, now if we are going to continue this post it in the debate board lol, so true. I'm sure the numbers are somewhat high but those are probably exagerated. actualy those numbers are low (please people before you contridict someone get a little backround info on the subject(not saying anyone here didnt get actual numbers but...), I did and if my answer is wrong it means my source was biased(which I doupt it is because scientists from all around the world are taking numbers and they all agree (except the crack pot ones)) but at least I have facts taken from scientists), thats in the rain forest alone. but the numbers are so high due to natural selection, if an animal cant make it its because its weak, but humans should be thinking farther into the future on this subject.
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Post by Lobstrosity on May 11, 2005 19:21:58 GMT -5
I doubt it. I don't think those numbers are low.
Also we will NOT move this to debate board. You said every new arrival is allowed their own little introduction thread in the welcome board. This is one of my first threads (it is my first actually) and so I'm allowed to have it. Charlie has dead leprechauns, but I don't see you threatening to take his thread to the debate board.
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Post by Azan on May 11, 2005 19:25:05 GMT -5
(please people before you contridict someone get a little backround info on the subject(not saying anyone here didnt get actual numbers but...), I did and if my answer is wrong it means my source was biased(which I doupt it is because scientists from all around the world are taking numbers and they all agree (except the crack pot ones)) but at least I have facts taken from scientists), i dunno that "I don't think " has me a little confused as to what you know your talking about
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Post by Lobstrosity on May 11, 2005 19:28:40 GMT -5
I just doubt that any real research has been done proving that 60,000 different species of animals die every year doe to human activities in the rain forest. That might just be an estimate. But somehow that number strikes me as a little high...
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Post by Azan on May 11, 2005 19:31:41 GMT -5
I just doubt that any real research has been done proving that 60,000 different species of animals die every year doe to human activities in the rain forest. That might just be an estimate. But somehow that number strikes me as a little high... Well I said about 60,000, and yes reseach has been done, so far about 137 spiecies go extinct each day in the rain forest(that are officialy recorded, many more die out that we havent even discovered yet), that 60,000 was taken back when deforestation was rampent, so im sure the number has dropped a bit but its still incredibly high (and once again, its mostly due to natural selection, when you have millions of diff spiecies in one area many are bound to be killed off)
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Post by Lobstrosity on May 11, 2005 19:50:32 GMT -5
Okay, but what I don't get is if 137 species die each day, how can anyone keep track of all of them? It's not possible.
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Post by Azan on May 11, 2005 19:56:17 GMT -5
Many scientists have nothing better to do than to collect many bugs, you know if you go into the rain forest you are likely to find a new spiecies, these scientists take how many they have found that are new, then one year later they do another servey, or if other scientists do not encounter another bug of that kind for a year it is extinct because there would be too few to reproduce or somethign along those lines.
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